Dream from Tim Pinson
Tim shared the dream he had last night with me…
I dreamed that I was at the temple during Jeremiah’s time. There were many people there, doing things around the temple.
The people had just been told that they would not be able to finish/continue the work of the temple, and everyone was terribly upset. In addition, they would have to be under the rule of a foreign nation.
I remember beginning to climb a mountain that was the temple itself.
I too was initially discouraged to hear that the temple work would not be completed, but I continued to climb, and as I did, the Lord spoke to me.
He said that ‘those who climb the mountain will see the full restoration of the temple.’ So, I continued to climb all the way to the top, following a narrow path that seemed to be unfolding before me… (It was like a way was being made for me, as I remember stones falling away to make the path as I climbed).
After reaching the top, I immediately began to descend the other side of the mountain. This was supposed to be a very difficult part of the journey, but the Lord made every path straight and smooth.
When I woke, I had lost many details of the dream. As I was remembering Jeremiah’s time, the Lord brought me to several chapters in Jeremiah. The first was Chapter 6, when the Lord encourages the people to look for the ancient paths. The second was Chapter 27 when the Lord told the people that they would have to serve Nebuchadnezzar. The third was Chapters 30 &31, where the Lord promises restoration.
Reponse from Immanuel Sun
I shared a few comments in response and feel led to journal them here:
This is amazing. It reminds me of a dream I had some time ago…☺
Be encouraged and be strong. It is high time for the advancing of your destiny in the Lord, and it does require some violence to be done with an enlarged faith and confidence. Register this fact as the starting place of all your endeavors on the earth: all things will pass away, but what He establishes in and through his holy ones will never pass away. We are to co-labor with the Lord and His angels according to His Plan. Only in our oneness with the Father as sons can we accomplish the good works prepared beforehand for us.
When you have time, please read Isaiah 8-11. The Rock will grow to be highest of all the mountains. It is destined to crush anything in it’s way, and to subdue all other mountains- (put all things under His feet, which is to make all things his footstool)… We are the increase of His Rock, upon which sweet sacrifices are to be offered continuously (as Abraham did when he offered his son in exchange for the Ram from above). That is to bring many sons home and be glorified in the sight of heaven and earth. The story of the Prodigal son has such a depth that it can only be understood when the light of His wisdom is dawning in our spirit, opening up for us the reality of His Kingdom. It speaks of the whole human race being reinstituted to his birthright and his inheritance. The ‘servants of the father’ speaks of angels.
Sonship springs from sacrificial death. The cross, which is the sword of fire designated as the judgement of angels, is symbolically represented in Abraham’s case by the knife (father) and wood (son) they carried unto the mountain top.
Only on that day, God restored His promise to have a seed in man to be installed. A seed to serve and embody the order of Melchizedek, that speaks of the appointment or approval of Jesus Christ as our High Priest, when he ascended and sat down at the right hand of God. Isaac, the son, was led like a lamb, which means he was made holy (without blemish or spot when inspected), through his perfect obedience before being sacrificed and exchanged. Only this kind of sacrifice and exchange will enable us to judge angels, more than to have them serve us, according to The Father’s good pleasure. This is the true essence of what the Lord had us to pray, ‘on earth as it is in Heaven,’ where the Order and Might of His Kingdom will be revealed (Rev 11), forcefully issued and firmly established from the Heavenly Tabernacle. This place where the Testimony of the Lamb of God is, which is the Ark of the Father’s presence, or His footstool. This is our Father’s house.
When you have time, do a study on the word “subdue” in Genesis, which shares the same form in Hebrew as ‘footstool,’ and ‘ram.’ David saw this in the Spirit of his Lord (Psalm 2, and 110).
He who carries us on eagle’s wings as His first-borns in Christ Jesus to His throne, to have us sit down at His right hand, will not allow us to be entrapped by Babylon the Prostitute, which is but the picture of the counterfeit of the evil’s establishment in the Heavenlies.
Brother John and I were quickened to read Haggai recently. It is time to be about the Father’s business.
Exposition of Sun’s Vision by John Cochran
John got excited after reading the above, then he first expounded on my vision a bit, then shared a wonderful vision he had yesterday while we drove back home…
Very encouraging. I see an outline of much of what you shared with me yesterday…. our discussion about being set apart… the new wine cannot be effectively intermingled with the old wine, in the fulfillment of what God is doing with this generation.
There are many obstacles that will be encountered along the journey. The pride of man, and what his opinion of his position is to be in the “army” are the greatest struggles. It leads to great loss due to lack of coordination. The competition among each other serves as a huge distraction to forward progress in what the Lord is doing. This is a picture of what the church is like today and the mindsets that influence it. To be accepted in this “company” you have to conform to its ideals, regardless of the real truth in the Lord. There is a greater interest in self-justification and “keeping up appearances” among men, rather than recognizing the fruitlessness of their overall efforts. Until these ideals that promote and foster disunity are laid down, there will never be much progress, even in the camps that are seemingly doing a good job of “training.” They still will not succeed in the backdrop of these old ideals and practices.
You then share in the experiences of persecution that result from the fruitlessness of these ways. Your consideration of separating yourself from the “establishment” is deemed as foolhardy and self-serving. Anything that challenges the “status-quo” is viewed as a threat and leads to great efforts designed to convince the one being lead by the Spirit to reconsider their “foolish” ideas to depart.
In the dream you depart on your journey anyway, and the diligent and persistent “working over” by the establishment has taken its toll. You are wearied from it and have little confidence when you decide to move on. It has wearied you but you are more determined to pursue what you believe is right in your heart than what others have tried to convince you is right.
As you move on, the things attacking you are no longer present, but the journey itself is very difficult. You are mostly alone. The journey changes to a more inward struggle instead of the outer struggle that characterized journey previously, as characterized by the solitude of this phase of the journey. This solitude causes you to doubt your decision in leaving the others behind, but you press on. You do encounter others, but each one, including yourself, recognize the need to continue on the path that the Lord has chosen for each of you. The sharing of similar situations on their journeys encourage you, especially the ones you encounter who are coming down again who have gone before you and made it to the “top.”
You reach the top and bask in the glory of the Lord. The journey has changed you inside. You think no longer as a natural man. Though you’d like to stay in this place, there is a time that you recognize that you should go back down. You can stay if you want, but you know in your heart that the right thing to do is to go back down. I was reminded of the story of Jacob’s ladder. The angels ascending and descending up and down the ladder… This time as you set out, there is no lack of confidence. You now know who you are in the Lord. There is no longer any doubt in your heart. Your path is planned by the Father and you have great faith in His ability to guide you along that path.
As a result of how the Lord has changed you in your journey, you have become highly effective in carrying out His plans and the caretaking of His business. You are now a lethal weapon in the hands of the Lord against the enemy. Although there are great struggles in the things you carry out for the Lord, there is real success… fruit is produced. You now recognize that the ultimate choice of what you do is yours. It is out of the desire of your heart to move on that you go, not because of some protocol established by worldly thinking has convinced you to go on. This is true freedom in the Spirit.
This is a picture of discipleship. The journey up the mountain is a picture of the process of discipleship. Many get sidetracked along the way and stay in places that cause them to “get off the train.” Perhaps there is a time to get off the train at various points in the journey, but one must always remember that they got off at a stop, not at their destination. To complete the journey they must be willing to get back on the train and continue their journey.
Vision of the Lord’s Table
by John Cochran
Hi, Brother. Following is what I shared with you in the car this afternoon. I have seen pieces of this before but I’ve been reminded of it in recent days. In the car this afternoon, it seemed as though the imagery was sharpened a bit with new understanding.
The Lord showed me a vision awhile back of what I believe is His table. The table was set in the midst of a dark and uninviting valley. The surroundings were not at all what one might expect. I am guessing that the valley in which this table was set was the Valley of the Shadow of Death as described in Psalm 23.
At the table were people dining and partaking of a feast. They were in adherence to the code of conduct at the table… the proper order expected. Each one sat in the place assigned to him.
Surrounding the table were the servants of the evil one. The servants of the enemy were all around. Many were standing over the shoulders of the seated guests shouting into their ears, nudging them at times in an attempt draw their attention away.
The diners were not at all interrupted. They almost seemed to be oblivious to the schemes being carried out to distract them. The diners were focused on the feast. They were not unaware of what was going on behind them. Their focus was intently trained on the feast their host had laid before them. They were at peace and contentedly dining.
My perspective of the pieces I saw was not as a diner, nor was it from the perspective of one of the enemy’s minions. It was as if I was being shown this table as third party observer. I believe the remembrance and the enhancement of this vision serves both as an encouragement and a warning.
There are only two places. You’re either at the table or not. If you’re not at the table, then you’re in the enemy’s camp. That is the warning. There will be no place any longer for a “third party observer.” The encouraging part is that the Lord’s peace is upon those who are dining at the table, in the midst of the great struggles that are getting ready to come. There was a context that, although many are going through great struggles now, there is a great shaking that is coming that will create great suffering and a need for two things… to be a diner at the table (conformity to the code of conduct that is necessary to be allowed to sit at the table in the space designated for you), and a great need to be focused on what the host has laid before those dining at the table.
It is interesting to me that the focus didn’t seem to be directly on the host Himself or the others dining at the table (one another). The focus was on what the host had laid before them on the table.
There is something about this “enhancement” of the vision that I described that is very different for me than other visions I’ve seen. I’ve seen the table, the surroundings in which the table was set, and the enemy’s servants trying to interfere around it. But the rest of the detail of what I understand didn’t come from visual imagery. This is different for me. It is almost like the understanding that I have is from a description of the details of the scene given to me by another. I have not heard the details of what I’ve described above before in a natural discussion setting. I guess the best way for me to describe it would be… someone goes to a museum and sees a painting. They then come home with a very detailed description of what they saw that allows you to “paint” the picture in your mind based upon what they’re describing.
What concerns me here is I don’t know if this is my imagination or did the Lord give me this understanding of the scene I’ve described above?
Comments on John’s Vision by Immanuel Sun
THX, brother. I corrected the number of the Psalm as I decided to share this with others. We might not know that the valley a bit north of us here is called “Death Valley.” It was such a journey for Brad and me to make a trip to meet Francis in L.V. and stand in the middle of the Dam, to release the flood to wash away death and darkness in the Spirit. Now these things are all starting to make sense…
I also jotted down a few thoughts along our line of discussion:
The essence of discipleship is not about how we should follow Jesus Christ regardless how much we suffer (the price we have to pay). It is to receive the wisdom from above-what we are to gain, even all blessings from Heaven.
And the wisdom from above is not in great showcases of God’s power, or merely a work of repentance in the midst of men- this only serves to prepare for what is to come. It is the conforming to the culture of the family of God and the Kingdom of God, which is eternal life. “On earth as it is in heaven,” is not merely about overcoming the evil one and ridding of the world outside and inside of us, it is literally to be and to enjoy whatever our Heavenly Father gives us in the Heavenly places, as we restfully partake of His divine Nature (“incarnate,” or embodied in His Son, the Anointed One), and receive the same “anointing”. This is called our “birth-right in Him,” and our “inheritance from Him” as sons of God. Religion, or less spiritual things, have replaced such a culture for us in the past as Christians.
That’s why Jesus shared before his death on the cross to his disciples of the teaching (the ‘service of food’ in the house, or the work of education) that the Spirit will be the conviction of sin, the conviction of righteousness, and the conviction of judgement – which is called “The elementary teachings of Christ,” by the early disciples, or the “Apostolic teachings,” after the day of Pentecost. When we are sealed by the Holy Spirit, we have found the mark of true life, and then we can yield to the training of the Holy Spirit to be righteous, and grow in the counsel of our Father as sons. If God permits, we enter into maturity and are now able to be established by Him in His Kingdom and His Family. If He intends, we are then enabled to serve in the Heavenly Tabernacle.
There is much to be expounded upon… But discipleship is about Kingly wisdom in God the Father, and Priestly wisdom from the Son- our High Priest who serves the Father for this very reason. A son serving the Father in this capacity has to be “disciplined,” not because of sin or lack, but to be acquainted with and to practice His Word (the wisdom of life, or the law embodied as the covenant of peace and life – Matt. 11) as the Levites under Aaron’s priesthood, or as priests (sons of God) instructed by God in Malachi 2-3. And for this very reason he was sent to us and has called us to be ministers under Him.
Thus He is the Apostle of our soul’s destiny, who points the way to our residence (dwelling place) in the Heart, Nature, and Wisdom of the Father in Heaven.
His blood and His body is the Food that is being served on the table, and it is most holy. It has to be partaken in a worthy manner, as the bread and the wine is the Holy One Himself, the communion of God, and we are to fellowship with the Father and with the Son. We are as a stranger and sojourner in the world like our father of faith, Abraham.
It is the pattern and the original intent of our Father in Heaven that when he covenanted with His Son, that man, as His crowned creation, would be the beneficiary of it. And the receiving of this word is the dawning light of God, the entering into the Kingdom, or true discipleship.
“Learned of me” is to be disciplined by the Father in Heaven into the fullness of the life by the Son and the Holy Spirit, even the glory that is our hope, or the essence of our Faith in Him.
I need to read John 17 again.
Matthew 10:24-42 (NASB95)
24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. 25 “It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they malign the members of his household!
26 “Therefore do not fear them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. 27 “What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim upon the housetops. 28 “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 “Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father. 30 “But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 “So do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows.
32 “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven. 33 “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 “For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36 and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.
37 “He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 “And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 “He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.
40 “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.
41 “He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward; and he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward. 42 “And whoever in the name of a disciple gives to one of these little ones even a cup of cold water to drink, truly I say to you, he shall not lose his reward.”
Matthew 11:25-30 (NASB95)
25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants (babes or new-borns who are eager to partake pure spiritual milk and have no pride in themselves). 26 “Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
27 “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29 “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 “For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Hebrews 2:1-3:11 (NASB95)
2:1 For this reason we must pay much closer attention to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away from it. 2 For if the word spoken through angels proved unalterable, and every transgression and disobedience received a just penalty, 3 how will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?
After it was at the first spoken through the Lord, it was confirmed to us by those who heard, 4 God also testifying with them, both by signs and wonders and by various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will.
5 For He did not subject to angels the world to come, concerning which we are speaking. 6 But one has testified somewhere, saying,
“What is man, that You remember him? Or the son of man, that You are concerned about him?
7 “You have made him for a little while lower than the angels; You have crowned him with glory and honor, And have appointed him over the works of Your hands; 8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet.”
For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him.
9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone. 10 For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to perfect the author of their salvation through sufferings.
11 For both He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12 saying,
“I will proclaim Your name to My brethren, In the midst of the congregation I will sing Your praise.”
13 And again,
“I will put My trust in Him.”
“Behold, I and the children whom God has given Me.”
14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives. 16 For assuredly He does not give help to angels, but He gives help to the descendant of Abraham. 17 Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted.
3:1 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the Apostle and High Priest of our confession; 2 He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3 For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house. 4 For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God. 5 Now Moses was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken later; 6 but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house—whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the boast of our hope firm until the end. 7
Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
“Today if you hear His voice, 8 Do not harden your hearts as when they provoked Me, As in the day of trial in the wilderness, 9 Where your fathers tried Me by testing Me, And saw My works for forty years. 10 “Therefore I was angry with this generation, And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart, And they did not know My ways’; 11 As I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”